Monday, June 25, 2012

Young Love aka How to Kill Your Mother


MARCH 11, 2010 8:12AM

Young Love aka How to Kill Your Mother

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I’ve always considered myself a fairly rational parent.  I contemplate all options before making a decision.  I discuss things with my kids, making sure to listen to their viewpoints.  I do my best to remain respectful toward them even if I secretly wonder what kind of drugs they’re on to come up with such a ridiculous idea.  When it comes to a matter of my kids’ health or safety, I know to act calmly and with authority (at least while they can see me.)  In fact, if you asked me a month ago, I would have scored myself Average in my parenting ability.

 
My 13-year-old son, however, is making me think otherwise.  Never before has one of my children caused me to feel as completely and totally inept as this child has.  

 
Last weekend, my son Matt invited his girlfriend over to our house for the afternoon.  My oldest son Ryan agreed to take them to the mall so that they didn’t spend their entire visit trying to test-drive their newly minted hormones.

 
The visit started off with Matt and his girlfriend’s usual silent, never-ending hug.  While cardiac-inducing the first time I witnessed it, I’ve come to accept their affinity for hugging as mostly benign.

 
After everyone was settled, I went outside to ask my husband a question.  The teen lovebirds were alone in our living room, but Ryan was in the kitchen.  He had a direct view to the living room so I wasn’t worried that they were unsupervised.  I figured they would be happy just hugging one another for awhile.

 
Wrong.

 
When I came back in the house a few minutes later, my son’s girlfriend was lying on top of him on the sofa and they were kissing.  It wasn’t the innocent, inexperienced kind of kissing either.  It was full-blown, oh-my-gosh-is-she-going-to-swallow-his-face, french kissing.  I did not expect that these two would advance from hugging to tonsil-hockey so quickly but apparently they’re overachievers.  I never would have suspected it from a boy who still plays with Legos.

 
I stifled the urge to shriek at them and instead ran over to where my son Ryan was standing in the kitchen.  I grabbed him and led him over to the doorway.

 
            “Ryan, look!  Matt and his girlfriend are kissing! “


Ryan nonchalantly peeked into the living room.   “Why yes...yes they are.”  He resumed eating his sandwich.

 
What is it with the men in this family failing to recognize the urgency of a situation?  Evidently it was my job to spell it out for him.

 
            “They’re entirely too young to be kissing!  I’ve got to stop this but what do I do?  Do I go in there and plop myself in between them?  Do I try some other way to break it up?  If so, what do I say?  Should I stroll in there and holler ‘hand check’ like the chaperones do at school dances? Oh, I do not feel well.” 

 
Ryan did not have anything helpful to offer.  He must get it from his father.

 
I’ve never felt as unprepared as a parent as I did at that moment.  I knew the right things to say to educate my kids about sex, but I’ve never had a situation where I actually had to interrupt one of them from going too far.  I didn’t want to embarrass anyone, and I didn’t want to project the idea that physical love is bad.  I just want to convey that it’s not okay for kids who haven’t yet completed the 8th grade to get more action than their parents.
  
If they had been two dogs, I would have known what to do, but spraying teenagers with a garden hose isn’t usually acceptable behavior in today’s society.  I decided to beg Ryan for help.

 
            “Isn’t it time for you to take them to mall?” I asked Ryan.  “That will cool things down until I can figure out what to say to them.”

 
            “But what do I say to them?”

 
            “That should be easy.  You’re his older brother.  Just go in there and say something that a brother would say.  You know, like ‘hand-check’ or something.  He won’t care if it comes from you.”

 
            “Aren’t you glad I never put you through this?”  Ryan couldn’t resist the opportunity to score some praise.

 
            “You’re right, Ryan.  You’re the Good One.  I’m very thankful that you’ve never put me in this situation.  Those two are going to give me a coronary before they’ve even graduated from middle school.”

 
As if on a mission, Ryan chugged down his drink and slammed his cup on the counter.  He straightened his shoulders as if preparing for battle and marched into the living room.  In a booming, rapid-fire voice, he announced:

 
            “Listen up boys and girls; it’s time to come up for air. Let’s put those hands where I can see them.  I’d better see four, count’em, FOUR, hands.  And for godssakes, get your faces off each other.  Haven’t you two ever heard of oxygen-deprivation?  It’s a big problem, you know, and not just in third world countries.  Thousands have died.  You could be next.  You shouldn’t be sticking things in each other’s windpipes like that.  Next thing you know, you’ll be needing CPR.  Do you need CPR?  How about the Jaws of Life?  No?  OK, good.  Let’s get up, get it together, and get the heck out of here.  The bus to the mall is leaving NOW.”

 
While it’s not exactly the approach I would have taken, it certainly worked to diffuse the situation.  Matt and his girlfriend dutifully followed Ryan out of the house, even if they did have a tough time trying to suppress their giggling.

 
Thanks to Ryan, I now have some time to get my blood pressure back to normal and to figure out how to deal with this predicament.  Still, I’m left with the uncomfortable task of having to talk to my son about his behavior.  What’s the best way to do that?  Maybe I should put a note in his lunchbox: 

“Dear Son, Have a good day at school.  By the way, your girlfriend is a tramp.  Love, Mom.” 
  
Until I figure it out, I’m going to call my insurance agent.  Parenting my middle son through puberty is definitely stroke-worthy.  It’s probably smart for me to increase my life insurance while I have the chance. 

 
You know...just in case.
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Comments

Oh boy, can I relate to this!! Ryan sounds like a great kid -- could I possibly borrow him for a month or two?
Yikes! My son's 3 years away from 13 and my daughter's in 8th grade.
She hasn't started dating yet, but she's pretty, she wears a C-cup bra and she admires the most juvenile of the 8th grade boys. She's only 12!!!

Good for Ryan. I hope you gave him lots of praise for handling things well.
Lisa, can I borrow Ryan? I´ll pay for the round plane ticket to Buenos Aires!
I have a 12-year-old girl, which makes HER the girlfriend in this scenario.... The problem is, my eldest son, 16, is behaving like a jealous Precambric cavesman about the whole thing (if such a cavesman ever existed!); in fact he wants to KILL the 13-year-old boy in question... No, I definitely need someone with the cool approach of your eldest son.
Oh, and by the way, I´m still laughing! Great post as always.
Kisses,
Marcela
Definitely time for The Talk.

You also might want to just put up a sign in your living room:

All Passengers MUST remain in an upright position.


Wishing you all the best, Lisa. When your boys enter Teen Country that's when you enter Xanax Country.

Rated.
Lisa, Lisa, Lisa....You had the opportunity to as Barney Fife used to say : "Nip it in the bud!" and you blew it. You had the secret to quote you--"If they had been two dogs, I would have known what to do, but spraying teenagers with a garden hose isn’t usually acceptable..." Exactly! One good spraying and you would have become a legend forever and known throughout the land. No young girl would have ever come into your house and tried smooching or worse with the mad lady hoser around. I am pretty certain none of them would be able to relax enough to even close their eyes. You let it slip away.....
This was so funny and yet horrifying at the same time. I love your sense of humor! I have a son who just turned 13 and I know that he wouldn't be ready for any of this stuff! Girls are so much more aggressive than they used to be. Lisa, I'm not sure what I would have done if I had witnessed that. To be honest with you, I don't think I would have handled it as gracefully as you. I probably would have gone in there and told her that it wasn't appropriate to be kissing like that at 13....especially in front of everyone. It doesn't show respect for others in the house. And then privately, I would have probably had a "discussion" with my son. Lisa, seriously, if they're doing that now, they'll be moving into the real serious stuff very soon! You better watch out. Perhaps her Mother should know.
Wow, my parents never had a problem with publicly embarrassing me. Next time walk in and ask if they need a condom. Trust me, you will never see a site like that again.
Hell, can I,/i> borrow Ryan? If I'm going to get my heart rate up, I'd at least like to be a participant! ;) Great post.
Uh ... dear ... can we talk? Have you forgotten your teenage years? No hot/heavy/embarrassing stories to tell?

In the Harry Potter stories Ms. Rowling calls it "snogging" ... no idea whether that's her invention or current slang somewhere in the UK ... but it's common enough behavior for 13-year olds ...

Any honest guy will tell you that there's an age when the testosterone turns on ... and boys spend the next decade or so learning how to cope with it ... sorta. If you are raising boys ... you know that gentle baseball gibe "Hey ump, you're missing a great game here!"

The problem with the snogging and the heavy petting should be obvious to any boy with an IQ over 80 ... it's guaranteed to get them all hot and bothered ... and then it either goes somewhere or it doesn't. Starting on the couch in your house ... is either of these really an appealing prospect?

It's like dogs chasing cars ... what are they going to do if they catch the car?

As far as the girl in question being a "tramp" ... you never did anything like this in your life? You missed some fun ... it's great to get the boys hot and bothered and then see what they do.

See my little blog item "Way cooler than me" for an experience in my life.

And I'm a dad raising a daughter ... that's "educational" ... indeed.
By the way, this line--- "I just want to convey that it’s not okay for kids who haven’t yet completed the 8th grade to get more action than their parents." is my favorite of yours since "More Tequila" ( your bill session post)
Well, your approach was mild compared to that of my mom. ANY gal who looked my way, was, by mom, to me privately, excoriated. "My God, Peter, the way they throw themselves at you, one would think they'd never seen a male before. How lewd!"

She let me know that every lovely young creature who crossed my path was trying to trap me into a shotgun wedding. Their mother's all loved me and their fathers all hated me, she told me, so she would work with the moms, to shake sense into their daughters.

One day she said, "Are any of the girls who follow you around NOT Supermodels in training?"

And, "When a girl is over for dinner, at all times, I want to see BOTH of her hands above the table if she is sitting next to you, and both of yours filled with eating utensils!"

Mothers, argh! Joy killing us boys, darn!
Rated, funny piece
Ooh Boy. I used to just go in and say, "Knock it off!" while clapping my hands. The same way I do when the dogs are exhibiting unsavory behavior. (Your Ryan is a hoot!)

And it's definitely time for the talk. Having raised one of each gender I think what works best is not to say anything negative about the girl because they get defensive, and instead put it all on him. His responsibilties toward her, his responsibilities with regard to himself, her reputation and his reputation, about how he treats her and what he says about her reflects upon his character. Good luck... You'll need it.
Call me old fashioned. 13 is very young for that kind of kissing. Their bodies are ready but not their brains. I'm glad my daughter saved that for much older or I would have needed an ICU - or I might be dead. Have you met her parents yet?
Maybe it's because I didn't get any action in middle school, but I can't help being a little bit in awe of Matt. And, uh, completely mortified as an adult, yes, but the 13 year old shaggylocks is still pumping his skinny little fists in the air...

Rated.
Wow Lisa, you have your hands full! I wonder how that episode would have played out at her house. I can tell you one thing, if she were my daughter it would have a short run and be followed by a frank discussion. My daughter is 10; not far from that age so thanks (not really) for the preview!
Ryan is The Man! That was beyond cool. That was movie-script worthy.
Oh, and good luck.
I love Ryan! What a great son (and older brother)!
All I can say in the gasps between my gales of laughter is, "good luck!"

Oh yeah, and please keep us posted!
Oh, my. Well, first, cheers to Ryan. Second . . . I kept envisioning you going into the living room, clapping your hands loudly and saying, "Hey! Hey! Hey!" You know--kind of the same way you'd say it if the cat were sharpening its claws on your son--oops, sorry, your sofa. I don't know what comes after "Hey! Hey! Hey!" Probably a long, embarrassed silence.

It makes that awkward, endless hug seem kind of sweet now, doesn't it?

If Matt is more inclined to listen to Ryan than to you and your husband, would Ryan be willing to have a bro-to-bro discussion with him about what's appropriate at 13 and what isn't? And somewhere along the line, condoms should be discussed--the purchase and use thereof. If hormones win out over common sense, they at least need to be prepared to prevent pregnancy. Something for Matt to think about: If he's too embarrassed to go into a drugstore and buy a box of condoms, he probably isn't old enough to have sex.
I gave my mom many near-heart attacks. And I was only 12.
I too, raised 2 boys and luckily they didn't 'date' in front of my husband and I. I did have the birds and the bees conversation with them, 14 and 15 at the time. They looked terribly bored and informed me they had it in health class. I loved your article. They weren't perfect sons but they grew up to be men I am proud to say are my sons!
ha! Your pain is our pleasure, Lisa. too funny.
The comments were fun, too. Shaggy's is my favorite:

"but the 13 year old shaggylocks is still pumping his skinny little fists in the air..."
Mom.
I hate to break this to you. You're going to have to get used to this. have the sex talk NOW. And I mean the condoms, the birth control, the STDs, the curfews, the talks now. Because if they're bold enough to be doing what they're doing on the couch in front of you, you can bet they're going farther away from prying eyes. A lot of kids start in eighth and ninth grade. You can say "no." You can say "don't you dare." But the best thing you can say is, "If you need contraception, need someone to talk to, need help, I'm here." Keep the lines of communication open. When he asks why you're freaked out, then you can tell him that you think love and sex go together, even though our hormones tell us to go crazy. Keep talking to him. And if she doesn't have anyone to talk to, offer to talk to her.
It'll be a whole lot better than a "whoops, guess what" later this year.
First, I would like to join the Ryan fan club. Love him! Second, I will admit to some kissing in the leaf piles of our neighborhood as a middle schooler but NEVER would I have attempted anything like that on the couch when my parents where home. That is pretty bold - which would make me feel concerned about what they would do if you weren't around. I certainly don't have any answers - just remember to listen to what he is really saying and trust that you have done what you can to raise a good boy/man. In my own neck of the woods...I was perusing FB last night and one of the little news items that came up told me that my 6th grade son has changed his profile and now has listed himself as "in a relationship and it's complicated". You can bet I got some mileage out of that one this morning!
Ryan: You rock.

Matt: What in the hell is wrong with you? Let me explain something: you know that couch in your girlfriend's basement? THAT'S the one you make out on. You turn the TV on and says you're watching some show. When her mom comes down to put a load of laundry in, you have 27 minutes. The noisy spin cycle will give you five minutes warning.

Lisa: Get out the hose. And make the boy shop-vac the couch and carpet afterwards.

Seriously, though--they're bold little buggers, clueless, or exhibitionists. I wouldn't do that NOW knowing my mom could walk in at any moment, and I'm 29!
I think you need to turn all major parenting decisions over to Ryan, because he clearly has a head on his shoulders and isn't going to panic in the clutch
Yeah, what is WITH the men in the family not understanding the urgency of the situation -- perhaps the family needs to hold drills, get a whistle and a stopwatch and assign duties and battlestations, just like they did back in the days of nuclear scares. Seems the only way, to me.

Best of luck to you in continuing to manage these developments... I really thought the hugging phase would have lasted longer, too. As long as you keep blogging it, though, I can't wait to hear what's next.
Too funny. I am predicting many more near heart attacks in your future--and mine ( my oldest son is on the cusp of 13.) He came home from school the other day and told me that his ex girlfriend had already kissed her new boyfriend 4 times! 4 whole times. I didn't think his interests ventured beyond legos until he said that.

Ugh. The teen years are dead ahead. I'm nervous.
I find this hilarious. I'll tell you why - mine are 26, 28 and 30! We're past all that! Yay!
Slip a couple ofcondoms in his lunch box. He'll be so mortified you'll put him off sex for, well, maybe three weeks, tops. But hey, every little helps.
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Lisa, this was hilarious and true on so many dimensions. May I remind you of Bora Bora? Because I would have no clue how to handle this one, with kids so young. Okay, I think the note in his lunchbox is the way to go. Whoa, young for such actions, no? yes? And if they were 18 you could say, "go to your room," but in middle school, Lord-y. At least you keep your humor. The dad here will say nothing. thank goodness for Ryan!
It really is pretty normal for 13 year olds to be kissing but...it sounds as if they might be doing or contemplating more. So, yes, educate him thoroughly and try not to show how freaked you feel. That will only lead to secrecy and (potentially) stuff that's really unsafe.
Wow. I know I wouldn't have handled things calmly. I would've walked in the room, grabbed hold of the back of the girl's shirt, and lifted her butt off him and into mid-air so fast she'd look like a David Copperfield levitation illusion.

I think I need an estrogen patch or something, huh.
Ah, yes, the hose. Good idea if they are outdoors. Might I suggest a spray bottle for when they are on your couch?

But I'm with shaggylocks. Yeeeesss, Matt, you da' man!!!

Except I have to rain on Matt's "good luck:" while back in the golden days when child labor laws were not yet enacted it was not uncommon to grow up fast and be married by age 15, nowadays the State has decided, in its infinite wisdom, what the age of consent is. If Matt and his paramour decide to do something because they are "hot and bothered", some overzealous prosecutor might decide they should have a file with their name and a piece of paper with "statutory rape" written on it. And that won't play well in their future. Get them acquainted with those facts of law and maybe it will cool their ardor because being discreet is not going to cut it.

And I don't think the girlfriend is a tramp. Just a strong young female who knows what she likes. We want our daughters to be empowered, don't we?

Best of luck! (And if all else fails, run away!!)
You could always yell, "Now you have to get married!" next time you catch them... ?
I like Writer Mom's suggestion of the David Copperfield Levitation trick.

Plant spray filled with Holy water and garlic cloves. Set your son at one end of the settee, and the girl at the other, and declare the middle a DMZ. If either one of them so much as twitches, spray them. It works with vampires, so it may well work with teens, and she gets the joy (or you do) of explaining to her parents the exact reason why she's soaking and smelly *adjusts halo and folds wings in*

Seriously though, get her parents involved, explain what's happening, and your concerns, and get them some contraception sorted out. If it were my son, I would also be taking him to the local STD clinic and getting him tested, because if she's doing that to him in your front room, then what else has she done, and who with? More importantly, is she exposing your son to anything harmful?

Of course, in conjunction with the above, it raises the specter for me that she's already pregnant by another boy, and is trying to maneuver the situation so your son has to take responsibility for it.
I'm sorry, but it is so much fun to follow your trials through this journey. Good luck!
Thank you, all of you, for the funny comments and wise advice. Yes, we definitely need to have a talk. I've been rehearsing in my head what to say to him. I think I'm going to start by acknowledging that I should have broken things up when they were both here (although Ryan did do a swell job, didn't he?) Then I'll move the conversation towards responsibility and reputations and staying safe and how there's no need to rush big things like this.

I am so sorry for not responding to everyone individually. I had the best intentions, but I worked two of my jobs today and then there was an event at the school and right now I'm so exhausted that it seems like an effort to go upstairs to bed.

Thank you all for commiserating with me, advising me, and most of all, laughing with me. It makes it all much more bearable.

XOXO
Ha! I was in 8th grade I think - maybe 9th - when I had my 'first kiss'. I kept my teeth clenched and thought he was crazy. I told my gilrfriends about lizard boy the next day. Guess who was embarrassed?
Great post! Very funny. I understand your situation. I have a 12 year old now. What Ryan did was ingenious!
I hope you've talked with Matt abut sex already.I talked with my son this year.
Good luck.
Nice post. rated.
Kim
Ya know, Lisa, those kids are almost worth the Axe smell!! Way too funny!! I'm still crying and shaking from your helpful, older son's taking charge of the situation... I'd keep using him to help out if I were you... (There's some great talent in there, if we can identify it!)
Lisa it's days later and truly I've been racking my brain as to what is a really good solution. I've come up with nothing so very glad others are wiser here. My daughter has sex far too little for my taste, I mean she had a cutie guy from 18-19 and he lived with us. She is now almost 24 and no action, and she's gorgeous and not gay as I've asked her and her friends to my endless embarrasment. I dunno--which is worse.
Well, I did have a talk with him. He insists he's following her lead. We'll see if my talk did any good. One thing for sure: they definitely need to put the brakes on their hormones. I'll have Ryan chaperone - just in case.
My mom didn't have to say a word. A swat with a rolled-up newspaper was all it took to bring about disengagement.
David - Ha! It sounds like you were only one step above the garden hose!
Holy shit! Why don't they have a male birth control pill yet???!! Is there someone we can call to STEP THIS UP!? I feel for you. I think you'll need to put some rules into place, as you did with the Axe body spray. All kissing must be done vertically, for example.
This was great. Look at this way: your son obviously feels very comfortable in your presence, and that's a testament to your parenting. On the other hand, don't look at it that way.

I was lucky my two daughters didn't put me through anything like that. There was one boy who seemed so disreputable that I was checking the state's gun laws. Turned out he was too stoned all the time to do anything else.
Wowsa. First kudos for a clever piece with a good deal of comedy and tension!

Now excuse me for sounding like a parental back seat driver, but there's no way you should have let them do that. A simple "Hey, knock that off RIGHT NOW. Show some respect or leave my home."

That's really inappropriate behavior that could result in a new addition to your household, if you get my drift. And it's disrespect coming from BOTH parties.

I know, I know - they're young. But I was the wildest child in the world and would never have thought of going over my boyfriend's house with their parents at home and acted like that. It's just wrong.

It's not so much that it's pre-intercourse (which it is), its them not acknowledging the rules of respect in your home - both of which are dangerous missteps.

Hope that didn't come across like a lecture. What do I know? I can't even raise a houseplant!
Angrymom - How about "All kissing must be done in the next decade?"

Cranky Cuss - Thanks for the advice to get the girl high so she's too stoned to do anything. I would have NEVER thought to do that. :)

Beth - You are totally right, now that I've had a week to think about it of course. I liked the commenter who suggested I clap my hands while yelling "Hey, hey, hey!" as if a cat is the intended target. If I can't use the hose, might as well try the approach that works on other animals, right?
love love love this story---just posted it on http://www.mommyhumor.com/
thankyou for sharing!!
Ryan has quite a way with words, a gift from his mother, perhaps?

Your post cracked me up -- I love your parenting stories! All I can say is good luck!
Jacqueline - Wow, thanks! And thanks for sharing the link on Mommyhumor.com (which I've just discovered is a terrific site.)

JLee - You have a teen, too? Condolences, my friend. They're trying to kill us, aren't they?

Leah - Thank you for the nice compliments! Ryan is actually a total hoot. He always cracks me up with the stuff he comes up with. For that, I try to forgive him the Axe pollution.
Hilarious.

I think your oldest son did exactly the right thing. Embarresssing your teenagers is always the best route to take.
Gwendolyn - I agree. In fact, Embarrassment of Teenagers is recommended by 4 out of 5 parenting experts. :)
“Dear Son, Have a good day at school. By the way, your girlfriend is a tramp. Love, Mom.”
I'm crying right now, I'm laughing so hard....r.
hugs, me - Thank you for finding this one! The girlfriend is supposed to come over tomorrow so I'll get to see if my talk with Matt had any impact. Wish me luck.

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